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Should dads encourage their sons to play with dolls?

January 14, 2015 by Inside MAN 8 Comments

Jo Swinson, the Lib Dem equalities minister, thinks parents should encourage their sons to play with dolls. Glen Poole shares his on thoughts and experiences on the matter as a father.

I have no experience of raising boys. I only have experience of raising one girl and my intention—as far as gender is concerned—has been to try and ensure that being female in a gendered world isn’t a barrier to her fulfilling her potential.

For me that was never about going against the grain of her unique nature. It was never about preventing her from doing “feminine” things and forcing her to do “masculine” things. It has been more about trying to cultivate and model an attitude of “anything is possible”.

Of course I haven’t always succeeded, but the intention is always there.

Match of the Day

Shortly after my daughter started to walk I proudly taught her to dribble a soft football while humming the Match of the Day theme tune. I allowed her to explore nature, get muddy and play with snails (though not slugs and puppy dogs tails, I’m not that clichéd). I bought her “boys’ toys” like trucks and cars as well as “girls’ toys” like dolls and prams.

A defining moment for me came when she was about two. Through her own preference, the trucks had disappeared into the back of a cupboard through lack of play and I’d all but forgotten them—until a friend with a son came round and discovered them in seconds and started charging around the house with them making engine noises.

The next toy he picked up was a pretend broom—“ah they’re going to play house  together I thought”—but no, he used the broom as weapon and he started hitting things with it. I’d never seen my daughter play in this boisterous way, she was more……”girl-sterous”.

My own experience is that my daughter went through many phases and I tried to embrace them all. When she got her first bike she was in a princess phase and wanted the pinkest bike in the world and I had great fun obliging. By the time she was seven and needed a bigger bike she was going through a “tom boy” phase and actively wearing “boys’ clothes” and wanted a “boy bike” which was blue and had a Dennis the Menace bell on it. Again i enjoyed playing along.

Which box do we belong in?

She was navigating a culture that puts boys and girls into boxes, trying out those different boxes for and discovering how it felt to to be her natural self, not the self others though she should and shouldn’t be.

It’s an ongoing process and as a teenager she’s happily studying science and maths through her own choice; dresses in jeans, Converse and t-shirts most days; has a shelf full of “woman’s things” that are alien to me and can glam up like a movie star when she chooses to.

I hope, as a parent, that I have, in some small way, made it easier for her to make the choices that are right for her in life—-but who knows?

Is the male brain different? 

And what I certainly don’t know is how this approach would have worked for a son. Would he have wanted pink bike? Would the doll I bought him ended up gathering dust at the back of the cupboard? Would he have worn skirts to college and tuxedos at the weekend. I’ll never know.

However, as I started writing this article, I was reminded of the book “The Male Brain” by Louann Brizendine and in particular a section about boys and toys, in which she says:

“Researchers have found that boy and girls both prefer the toys of their own sex, but girls will pay with boys’ toys, while boys—by the age of four—reject girl toys and even toys that are “girl colours” like pink.”

Brizendine says she didn’t know this when here son was born and so she set out, with good intention, to give him lots of unisex toys to avoid gender stereotyping.

The shocked feminist 

“I bought him a Barbie doll,” she says. “I though it would be good for him to have some practice playing out nonaggressive, co-operative scenarios. Once he freed her from the packaging, he grabbed her around the torso and thrust her long legs into midair like a sword, shouting, “Eeeehhhg, take that!” toward some imaginary enemy.

“I was taken aback, as I was part of the generation of second-wave feminists who had decided that we were going to raise emotionally sensitive boys who weren’t aggressive or obsessed with weapons and competition. Giving our children toys for both genders was part of our new child-rearing plan. We pride ourselves on how or future daughters-in-law would thank us for the emotionally sensitive men we raised. Until we had our own sons, this sounded perfectly plausible.”

Brizendine goes on to make the case that it is natural for boys to be more interested in competitive games and girls to be more interested in co-operative games; with boys spending nearly twice as much as their free time playing competitive games and girls ”taking turns” in their co-operative play twentiy times more than boys.

Another study she cites found that boys were six times more likely than girls to use domestic objects (like my daughter’s play broom) into weapons. Even Rhesus monkeys, says Brizendine, show sex differences in toy preferences with male monkeys more likely to choose trucks than dolls to play with when compared to female monkeys.

Will boys be boys? 

Brizendine believes that nature is at play here. She cites the condition in girls called CAH (congenital adrenal hyperplasia) which is cause by exposure to high levels of the masculine hormone testosterone in the womb. Researchers have found that girls with CAH are more likely to choose “boys toys” to play with than other girls.

I strongly believe that boys and girls should be free to explore all sides of their personality, but there is a word of caution here. I am wary of people who think there is something fundamentally wrong with boys, such that their behaviours and beliefs need to be conditioned out of them.

Jo Swinson MP wants to encourage boys to play with “feminine” toys like dolls, others, like Yvette Cooper MP, want boys to be taught to be feminists others, like the Great Men Value Women project that runs workshops for teenage boys in schools want a  a “de-gendered” future where  men and boys have “dropped the concept of masculinity altogether“.

My personal belief is that men and boys, like women and girls, should be free to choose—and yes our choices can be restricted in various ways by the culture and society we grow up in. At a cultural level, I  think dads should encourage and challenge boys to be who they want to be, to think what they want to think and to play with whatever toys they want to play with—whether that’s cuddling dolls or turning Barbies into weapons, either way, let them have their fun and discover for themselves what it means to be a man.

—Article by Glen Poole author of the book Equality For Men

See Also:

  • Why dads should encourage their sons to play with dolls by insideMAN contributor Torsten Klaus

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Boys are boys and girls are girls, get over it!

December 21, 2014 by Inside MAN 3 Comments

Yesterday we asked if parents should buy their children gender neutral toys this Christmas. The gender equality expert, Karen Woodall, responded with such a thoughtful comment that we’ve republished here as an article. Here’s what she had to say:

I used to think it was nurture not nature when I had a girl and then she had a boy and I was taught a very very very big lesson…girls and boys are different creatures….the older I get the more I understand how different we are and how that difference is what we need to work with in equalities work not this endless focus on neutral.

The strapline of the old Equal Opportunities Commission used to be: “Women, Men, Different, Equal”. It is a shame that it is not still widely used because this idea that if something is gender neutral it is good, is not actually true in equalities work.

To even up power imbalance you have to make something gender aware not gender neutral because of the way that gender neutral is enacted in a gender biased world …so take the case of toys for example…a gender neutral toy will be likely to be turned into a gendered toy by the girl or boy playing with it. Girls will turn a block of wood into a doll and nurse it and boys will turn it into a gun or some other attacking implement and use it that way.

Messing with a child’s gender identity is cruel 

 

That is because we are not born the same, we are born with different biological drivers and if we nurture those different drivers in children, the argument goes that we shut down their other capabilities, so, although they would turn a block of wood into gendered toys left to themselves, if you want to drive gender neutrality in children what you do is gender proof the toys and ensure that they cannot be identified or used to further gendered expectations.

You would give a girl a science based toy and suround her with messages that this is her identify and a boy a doll and a pram and surround him with messages that this is his identity, that way you counter the nature based stuff. Now when this is put like this most people recoil because they don’t really want children to be socially engineered like this and personally, I thnk those people who interfere with children’s inherent gender identity are clueless and quite cruel.

I was one of those for the first three years of my daughter’s life (how embarrasing to think of it now) in that she was not allowed to have anything pink or anything girly. Then I saw her playing with her friends in nursery and realised that what I was doing was imposing MY beliefs on her instead of allowing her to grow and helping to gently shape that.

Men and women are not the same 

 

Now that she has a boy who is all things that boys can be – sticks, mini cars in his pockets, scuffed knees, grubby face, jumps rolls and generally spends his life upside down if he can – I understand at a very immediate level that if you let difference come through it does.

However, in terms of equalities work there is a long way to go because men and women are not the same and they are not the same within the spectrum of their own gender either. Gender identity is different too, you have very girly girls for example and less girly girls, you have very masculine boys and less masculine boys and allowing that difference within gender identity by promoting and supporting fluidity in the way we express our femine and masculine selves is really important in promoting equality.

Ultimately it is about difference and having the choice to express that difference. We are not all neutral and we are not all the same and when we understand how to cope with our differences then we are into a place called equality.

—Photo Credit: flickr/Ano Lobb

Tell us what you think? Will boys be boys (and girls be girls) or are the toys we give our children helping to condition them to be masculine or feminine?

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ABOUT KAREN WOODALL:

Karen Woodall is a partner at the Family Separation Clinic working with the whole family through difficult times.  Karen is a specialist in working with high conflict separation and parental alienation.  Her book Understanding Parental Alienation; learning to cope, helping to heal is in press. Working with families from a non feminist perspective, Karen is co-developing support services which are based upon understanding of family violence and dysfunction as a generational problem and is working alongside Erin Pizzey to build these into a therapeutic model which can be widely used.  

You can follow Karen’s writings at her outspoken and often controversial blog: Karen Woodall.

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Why dads should encourage their sons to play with dolls

September 19, 2014 by Inside MAN 8 Comments

I really thought that I shouldn’t need to write about this. I believed that’s not a topic of the 21st century. And, oh gosh, I was wrong.

I’m talking about the big gender nonsense in our society. It all starts by how we treat our children, putting them into categories of gender: this is what boys do and that’s what girls do, this is what boys wear, this is what girls wear…

When working with families I came across this a lot: Mum thinks it’s a good idea to buy their sons (and daughters of course) a doll to play with. Then dad joins in and says: My son playing with a dolly? No way, he will get a new football, that’s what boys play with!

A quick look into the next best toy shop will just confirm this view. Toys are being categorised – again, girls toys (then they come in pink) and boys toys (blue of course). Girls play with dolls, prams, skipping ropes and pink balls – boys will play with cars, toy guns, pirate outfits and blue balls.

‘He would go with dolly everywhere’

But what would happen if there are no such stereotypes anymore? What would our children choose if media, marketing and shops ignore colour coding and artificial preferences?

My boys are going through different phases of playing with dolls. When my eldest was about 1 1⁄2 we gave him a doll. He took the doll, looked at it and then kissed it. This was followed of a period of time where he would go with dolly everywhere.

After about six months he suddenly lost interest in playing with his doll. We didn’t do anything about it and that’s how it is until now. He’s now nearly six and pays more attention to his soft toy rabbit (well, now he wants a real baby to cuddle and look after, well, I guess he has honed his fathering skills on dolly, now we can move to the next level…). His younger brother has taken over the care for dolly. He is looking after her like a father would care for his child. And that’s exactly what playing with dolls is all about: Caring for someone; social, emotional and communication skills. It’s incredible what children explore and develop when they play with dolls: The list is long.

To check out all benefits on playing with dolls, have a read at MamaOT’s post here. (Just the headline in that post would look so much better without the reference to boys. All kids already includes boys)

What if there were no ‘gendered’ toys?

And it’s interesting to see, how kids can respond to the artificial advertising of gender roles. When we went out for a small lunch the other day, to a seaside café, there were little flags in the Panini with crossbones and a skull on it. My son asked why and well, what’s the answer to that? So, I just went with the best answer I could think of: adults think children like pirates and so like the café. His response was, “I don’t like pirates”. Yes, why would you?

Sometimes explaining the adult world to children, especially the world adults create for children to enjoy, is extremely difficult.

So what if we didn’t have any “gendered” toys? I believe our kids would just continue playing. They don’t care about gender fake (they will go for the colours THEY like) or appropriate toys. With no interfering from our side they’ll figure out themselves which toy is fun and which isn’t. Some will go through colour phases of liking one and then another.

So, next time I hear a father (or a mother) say that their son(s) shouldn’t play with dolls, I’ll just pick up one, sit on the floor and pretend to feed it. Then I will wait for the boys to join in the game. Kids play with dolls – let them enjoy it!

By Torsten Klaus

Torsten is an Author, Parenting Coach and Stay-at-home Father. He runs the internet platform Dads Talk  and you can connect with him on www.facebook.com/DadsTalk or on Twitter @EmpathicFathers

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