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Men, it’s time to stop suffering in silence

October 10, 2014 by Inside MAN 3 Comments

If talking about your problems was good enough for Plato and Hamlet, why do so many men today find the only time they discuss the things that are troubling them is when they’re down the pub after a few beers? Here Karl Coppack, writer for Liverpool Football Club’s The Anfield Wrap, explains why it’s time for men to open up.

–This is article #7 in our series of #100Voices4Men and boys

Think of every bad soap opera you’ve ever seen. That should be all of them if you ask me but if you’re an aficionado of the form you’ve probably come across a scene where a doomed couple are in the death throes of their (shudder) ‘relationship’. The clichés fall fast and furious until they arrive at this one exchange.

‘Can’t we just talk about it?’

‘Talk? All we’ve done is talk!’

This usually concludes the scene thanks to one of the dramatis personae slamming a door or collapsing in tears. End of Part One.

It’s rare that a man seeks help from a man

Talking is the way we resolve situations or get things off our chests. I can’t believe I’m going to suggest such a thing, but let’s bring in Plato here. He wrote much of his theories in a character format where someone or other would question Socrates about what was on their mind that day – the rights of kings, whether might is right and the thorny issue of poets being banished from the city gates. These were known as ‘the Socratic dialogues’ and they make his point very well. Rather than standing around throwing out theory after theory, he chose to show all sides of the argument. This, as he and others saw it, was the way ideas progressed. Hence, Parliament – from the French ‘parlement’ – to speak. This is getting dangerously close to an ancient political lecture so let’s just say that talking about things tends to get things done. Sometimes.

Moving on a bit from Ancient Greece we only have to look at modern (ish) music. ‘I Don’t Want To Talk About It’ sang Rod Stewart, while subsequently proving that he was actually quite keen on it. ‘A problem halved is a problem shared’ and all that. It’s true too. We’ve all got people we run to when we’re up against it. Thing is, it’s rare that male runs to male unless it’s son to father.

Men are strange like that. We find it very hard to admit to worries and problems and our mates are usually the last to know what’s on our minds. We either muddle through alone or run in the opposite direction.

Men don’t just sail through life with a hardened chin and the heart of a lion, ready to take on any challenges that come our way. We’re not all like Tony Soprano’s hero, Gary Cooper – the strong and silent type. If anything the only skill we truly master is the pretence of complete control. We can fake that easily enough and for the lucky amongst us who can steer their ship with a skilled hand so much the better, but there are many who have monsters below the surface.

‘I get that too’

A few weeks ago I was out with some mates and somehow talk turned to what can be loosely described as ‘male issues’. That we did this at all was unusual. We’re a group of lads between the ages of 30 and 50 with differing backgrounds, careers and interests. We’re united primarily by a love of our football club and together we experience the peaks of troughs of emotion through that entity, but apart from that we’re a fairly mixed group. Some of us are obsessed with music, others aren’t. Some are married, some single. Some have kids, others not. We’ve all known each other for years and have travelled up and down the land together, attended each other’s weddings etc., but this is the first time I can ever remember us talking about aspects of our personality or health that concern us. This would never have happened five years ago when we were younger and more defensive about such things.

I don’t want to give the impression that we sat in the corner like some sort of moody Goth council –we’re not like that at all- but there was the odd raised eyebrow when people spoke up. Alcohol helped, of course. In vino veritas and all that, although Birra Moretti was the main lip loosener at the time, but what came over far more than the lack of embarrassment of admitting to perceived weaknesses was that we all saw something in ourselves through the words of others. The sentence ‘I get that too’ was muttered more than once.

Obviously, I won’t go into details about the general topics expressed that night, I’d like them to continue being my friends after all, but in the interests of disclosure I’ll admit to something I’ve kept quiet.

‘I spent a weekend in silence’

For the last few years, I’ve undergone periods of intense gloom. This is nothing like a teenage strop or anything similar but an absolute collapse in self-worth for no obvious reason.  There are times when I cannot face a living soul, times when I’d rather lock the door and not come out unless it’s absolutely necessary. Instead, I prefer to save the world from my interaction, my face and my sense of utter worthlessness. Only last month I spent a weekend in silence. I turned off my phone and just listened to my own mind tell me that I’m useless, hopeless and about to be revealed for the fraud that I undoubtedly am.

There’s no trigger for this. Oddly enough it comes when things are going well or I feel particularly loved – birthday parties, commendations etc. I don’t know what this is but I know what it isn’t. It isn’t depression. I say that not out of some ill-thought mantra about designer illnesses or anything so crass but because I know it will pass and I can manage it accordingly. This isn’t a daily struggle. I don’t have violent mood swings and I don’t seek medication. Furthermore, I am not a danger to myself so I live with it and wait for whatever it is to let me go.  It always does.

The majority of my male mates don’t know this but I have several close female friends who have sat with me and tried to talk me round during these miserable hours. Why is that? Why is one ear better than another? Why can they know but not them?

Well, the truth is that I’m a bit embarrassed by it. I know I shouldn’t be but there we are. Those paragraphs were difficult to write as I know what it is to come – he just wants attention, look at him with his fancy ‘sensitive’ condition, look at him begging for sympathy. Actually, that’s the last thing I want. If anything that would make it worse. During those times I’d rather not have proof that there are others who agree with the overwhelming consensus within my id. No thanks.

‘For every sympathetic ear, there’s a boorish lout…’

There are always people ready to cast stones of disgust. Look at the recent suicide of Robin Williams. Despite the outpouring of emotion at such a loss some just couldn’t help themselves. Here’s Alan Brazil, a former footballer and DJ of the radio station Talksport. Like many he thought that it was Robbie and not Robin Williams who had died in the night. He expressed relief at that live on air.

“And then when she said ‘Robin’, I thought, ‘oh, okay’. It didn’t hit me hard like it would if it had been Robbie, thank God it wasn’t.

“He’s got a daughter, what’s she feeling this morning? I don’t have a lot of sympathy I’m sorry.”

“But that’s the way I feel, I’m sorry. What you leave behind is diabolical…. I’m really annoyed about that.”

Well, we’ll all have to live with your anger, Alan.

What he fails to realise is that Robin Williams knew full well the impact his suicide would have on his family. Of course he did. He’d probably considered suicide many times before but his family pulled him back from the brink. Then one day it wasn’t enough to save him. I don’t want to think about what it must be like to be in that situation and see death as preferable and it’s the likes of Alan Brazil’s with their derision that keeps these issues hidden. For every sympathetic ear there’s a boorish lout who bays ‘why don’t they just walk it off’ to anyone within earshot.  Little wonder then that men find it difficult to feel tell others that they are experiencing depression, drinking problems or whatever going on in their lives when they’re met with a cacophony of scorn from ‘those who must express a view’.

Gender divide

Of course women get depression and its various strains too but that’s treated differently. They aren’t subject to the stereotypical machismo that governs our lives. Men have to be strong. Men have to answer to peer pressure. Men can never admit to frailty etc. Quite ridiculous, of course, but there we are. The term ‘show your feminine side’ is generally pejorative in tone. Great. We’ll just eat ourselves up then, shall we? Harsh maybe, but that’s what many choose to do.

There are considerable pressures on us all these days. Life is an attainment race as it is and with these accompanying hurdles there’s no wonder that we struggle from time to time. Most of us would rather change an aspect of their lives be it career, health, looks or all of the above and that judgment is constant, whether it’s from ourselves or others.

There is a gender divide at play. None of my female friends have this need for validation. Whether this is because we’re just wired differently or because society expects different things from men and women is hard to say. But there is a difference in how we deal with life’s time bombs. Men seem less willing to ask other men for help.

So, did anything come of this chat? Not really. We simply went back to usual agenda of the evening but it was a start. We each admitted that we’re not all ‘well’ in a general sense. We all have things in our minds that dig into our ribs and sharing them doesn’t make us weaker. If anything it makes you the opposite. If you find that your friends have similar worries it makes your own a little more manageable.

Keep talking. It can’t hurt.

Karl is a former writer for Through The Wind and Rain and a whole host of others who are desperate for copy. Troubled with the modern world, grimaces at ball-playing centre halves and frowns at fancy-dan back heels. Apt to talk about the magnificence of Ray Kennedy wherever possible.

Karl’s debut novel, And What Do You Do? is available on Kindle download (not about footy). To check out more of his writing visit The Anfield Wrap and follow him on Twitter @thecenci

Photo courtesy: Cristian Stefanescu

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Filed Under: Uncategorized Tagged With: #100Voices4Men, Depression, Karl Coppack, Male suicide, Men’s mental health, mental health, sub-story

Where are young men’s voices in the gender debate?

August 27, 2014 by Inside MAN 3 Comments

Young women’s voices are at the forefront of our cultural conversation around gender issues.

From the banning of Robin Thicke’s ‘Blurred Lines’ by university student unions, to Pussy Riot and the Femen phenomenon, as well as the unexpected up-rising of #WomenAgainstFeminism, young women are speaking out and being heard.

The silence from young men, however, is deafening.

What do they think about this conversation that is, by default, being had about them? Equally, what do they have to say about issues such as suicide, street violence and educational underachievement, that primarily impact upon their own gender?

Here teenage vlogger Josh O’Brien gives his take on the situation.

Why do you think so few young men are speaking out about the issues they face? What do you think the impact might be on young men of not engaging with the discussion of gender that goes on around them and about them? Tell us what you think in a tweet or a comment.

Feature image: flickr/floeschie

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To watch more of Josh’s videos, check out his YouTube channel here.

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Filed Under: Men’s Insights Tagged With: Blurred Lines, boys education, boys educational under-performance, family breakdown. Fatherlessness, femen, Feminism, Josh O’Brien, malala, Male suicide, NUS women’s officer, pussy riot, womenagainstfeminism

Robin Williams’ tragic suicide aged 63 highlighted middle-aged men’s rising suicide rates. How does depression hit older men?

August 21, 2014 by Inside MAN 2 Comments

Robin Williams was 63-years-old when he killed himself — at an age you might have thought he would have left behind the most tormented years of his life. But both depression and suicide are rising among middle-aged men. Here Roger Jones of the Older Men’s Network explains the some of the issues that impact on older men’s mental health.

It is very easy to assume that when we talk about mental health and older people we are talking about Dementia. But 1 in 4 older people will experience a mental well being issue this year.

More women are diagnosed with depression than men, however it is acknowledged that this is because men are less likely to seek help, which leads to a greater threat of the depression getting a more severe hold and in some cases leading to suicide.

Statistics from The Mental Health Foundation tell us that the number of middle aged men and older men taking their own lives has risen over the last few years, with over 1,000 men aged 50+ killing themselves every year in England and Wales.

500,000 older UK men live alone

What is more, most older people with depression are never diagnosed and do not receive any treatment for their depression, even if they have seen their GP.

Sometimes this is because they may present to GPs with a physical problem but the underlying issue is a mental health difficulty such as depression. Instead, if they get help, they rely on informal support such as family, friends and community groups.

Social isolation reduces the amount of informal support available, increases the risk of developing depression, and reduces the quality of life for older men — and around 500,000 older men live on their own in the UK.

The most isolated older men are those aged over 75 and those who are living alone — this is particularly the case if they are widowed or divorced. Bereavement or loss — which might include loss of income, role and status associated with retirement — leaves older men particularly vulnerable to mental ill health. Some widowers find that without their wife or partner who may have acted as their “social secretary” it can be hard to maintain friendships. Older men with families and children are also less likely to be in touch with them than older women.

‘It can be difficult for them to accept help’

Deterioration in physical health and mobility associated with growing older also makes people vulnerable to mental health problems. Even for people in long term relationships, there may be risks to their mental health if they are involved in increasing caring responsibilities, particularly if they are caring for a partner with dementia or other chronic conditions.

Whilst there are many good community-based services for older people, older men are less likely to use them than women, particularly if they are isolated and living alone.

Many older men are reluctant to take part in groups or services like day centres, seeing them as being for women or the very old and dependent. When men have spent their lives independently or have seen themselves in the role of the family provider, it can be difficult for them to accept help.

The groups and activities that the Older Men’s Network facilitate always aim to support Older Men to have fun, make friends and give them something to look forward to.

‘Men find a common bond’

We always try to train some of the men in the groups as Older Men’s Champions who are more aware of the problems an older man will face and they can then support them or signpost them as needed.

Although we are aiming to get older men more active so they can live a healthier and more fulfilled later life, we always need to be aware that men also need support around their mental health.

We all have a physical health and we all have a mental health – sometimes they are in good condition sometimes they are not. We need to be aware that when our mental health is not so good we need to talk to someone about it.

Talking and sharing problems is one of the best ways to address this and a big part of the Champions training is about encouraging the guys in the groups to feel it’s OK to share their thoughts and feelings. This doesn’t happen on day one of course, but as the men bond and friendships develop and the men find a common bond the opportunities to off load are there.

We will never be able to deal with all cases of depression in men but if we can build opportunities and avenues for men to share their feelings, and raise awareness in campaigns which men can relate to without stigma then maybe we can start to save more lives.

By Roger Jones, National Manager, National Older Men’s Network

Photo courtesy: Cristian Stefanescu

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Filed Under: Men’s Issues Tagged With: Depression, Male suicide, Men’s mental health, Old age, Older Men’s Network, Robin Wiiliams, Roger Jones, Suicide

Male suicide prevention charity launches webchat service

August 1, 2014 by Inside MAN 5 Comments

Male suicide prevention charity, the Campaign Against Living Miserably (CALM), have launched a free web-chat service offering support, information and signposting to men who are depressed or in crisis.

From today, the service will be open daily between 6pm – 9pm. Users within the UK will be able to chat anonymously and confidentially to trained helpline staff.

Within the next eight week’s, the charity said the web-chat service hours will be extended to match those of its telephone helpline — from 5pm to midnight. 

CALM said that research with their supporters identified a need to offer online provision, alongside their helpline and texting service, in order to make accessing support easier to a younger male audience.

Suicide is the leading killer of men aged 20-49 in the UK, and has overtaken coronary heart disease as a killer in older men aged up to 50.  The latest statistics show that 77% of all suicides in the UK were male.

CALM said its telephone helpline takes around 4,000 calls a month.

The web-chat can be accessed on the CALM website: www.thecalmzone.net/get-help

By Dan Bell

Photo courtesy: Mic445

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Filed Under: Men’s Issues, Uncategorized Tagged With: Articles by Dan Bell, CALM, Campaign Against Living Miserably, Depression, Male suicide

Suicidal 18-year-old labeled ‘a drama queen’ by a doctor before he killed himself

July 29, 2014 by Inside MAN 4 Comments

A harrowing story in the Telegraph over the weekend described how a severely depressed 18-year-old man — who made 40 attempts to take his own life — was labelled “a drama queen” by a doctor before he went on to kill himself.

That throw-away three-word quote, said more about the deep cultural prejudices that underpin male suicide than was mentioned in the rest of the article’s 1,500-words put together.

As an implicitly homophobic insult deployed to humiliate gay and straight men alike, the words encapsulate the gendered shame still imposed on young men who express weakness or distress.

The fact that men are humiliated for somehow being “less of a man” for showing emotion, goes a long way to explain why suicide is now the leading cause of death for 20 to 40-year-old men in the UK, a rate that’s three to four times that of women.

Young gay men even more at risk

But the implied homophobia of the insult also helps to explain why the suicide rate of young gay men is even higher still.

A 2012 survey by Stonewall Scotland, suggested gay men in Scotland were nearly eight times more likely to have attempted suicide in the past year than heterosexual men.

It seems that the further a young man deviates from the expected rules of the masculine role – to be tough, straight and stoical – the greater the shame that’s imposed upon him.

This isn’t the first time I’ve heard of a health professional effectively telling a young man at risk of suicide to “man up”.

Several years ago I reported on the suicide of a 26-year-old man from Manchester who’d hung himself in the woods by a motorway slip road.

His sister told me that when he had visited his GP, her brother was told to “pull himself together and not expect everyone to do everything for him”.

By Dan Bell

Photo courtesy: Mic445

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Filed Under: Men’s Insights, Men’s Issues, Uncategorized Tagged With: Articles by Dan Bell, Ben Cowburn, Depression, homophobia, Male suicide, Stonewall, Young male suicide

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