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‘Masculinity is a such a primal force in boys and men, we need to find good ways to unleash it’

May 20, 2016 by Inside MAN 5 Comments

Books about masculinity, it seems, are like buses: You wait ages for one, then three turn up at once. Two of the three books out this month exploring modern masculinity even have the same title: Man Up, by Rebecca Asher and Man Up: Surviving modern masculinity, by Jack Urwin.

The third of the triumvirate, Who Stole My Spear? How to be a man in the 21st century, is by Tim Samuels, presenter of BBC Radio’s Men’s Hour and one of the great contributor’s to our own book. Tim spoke to insideMAN about why he decided to write a book about men and where he thinks the conversation needs to go next.

1.) What inspired you to write Who Stole My Spear?

It was the eventual realisation that all the different pieces of the jigsaw came together as a picture – which showed that there was a real issue with masculinity we need to take to seriously as a society. So when you add up things like male prison rates, violence, Mental health, boys lagging behind at school, people being drawn to extreme politics and all that – it really felt like the modern male condition was something that needed to be explored urgently.

2.) Have you seen a change in the conversation about men, masculinity and men’s issues since you launched Men’s Hour? How/in what way?

When I first launched Men’s Hour the reaction was, what on earth have man got to complain about? And a lot of columnists – especially female – mocked that men needed to talk about anything apart from football. But over the last couple of years I’ve really noticed a sea change. People are taking male issues seriously, and we now have the likes of the Southbank Being a Man festival, the Telegraph and Huff Post have a male section – and insideMAN is a real testament to the bold thinking now going on around masculinity.

3.) What still needs to change about the mainstream conversation about men and men’s issues, in your opinion?

Man and mental health is such a crucial issue to get out there. The media are starting to wake up to this, but so much more needs to be done to provide the space and the right language to allow men to express how they feel when they are depressed etc. And big companies need to take responsibility for doing their bit – work is so central to man’s identity and well-being. Businesses just have so much more to do here, to provide work places that are going to be healthy for men and give them the right support.

4.) How has your perspective evolved i) since launching Men’s Hour ii) in the process of writing your book?

Over time I have become more and more convinced that we have to find good ways to vent masculinity. It is such a primal force in boys and men and unless we find ways to unleash this good masculinity it will find destructive outlets which will be bad for individuals and bad for society as a whole.

5.) What do you make of the fact three new books on men and masculinity have come out within four weeks of each other? (Your own, Jack Urwin’s and Rebecca Asher’s.)

I haven’t read the other books yet, so can’t really comment on what they are saying – but I guess men and masculinity is starting to hit the Zeitgeist which can only be a good thing.

6.) What has been the reaction to your book so far?

Who Stole My Spear? has had a great reaction so far…  We’ve been picked up by the national press, radio and television – and people really seem to want to have the conversation about good masculinity. And women have been really engaging with it too – and there’s hardly been any of the usual ‘what have men go to whinge about’ stuff. So, I’m strangely hopeful that it might generate some new thinking around the challenges that man face today

7.) What is the most important thing / understanding you would like readers of your book to take away from it?

That these really are challenging and absurd times to be a man, living in our caveman-designed bodies but following lives totally out of kilter with our design and how we have lived for thousands and thousands of years. But there are things that we can do, changes to how we live and work, that will make us more in tune with our masculinity – and ultimately make us happier as individuals and better as a society.

8.) Anything else you’d like to add?

It would be great if men could spread the word about all this stuff. We really need men on a grassroots level to start sharing these ideas and getting some momentum behind some of these really big ideas which affect all our lives. Viva la revolution.

Who Stole My Spear? How to be a man in the 21st century is available from Amazon

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  • Groan

    I shall look forward to reading this. I think it was Margaret Mead the Anthropologist who most famously observed that males in particular are “made” into men in the societies she studied. She wasn’t the first or last to observe this. One of the shifts from her time has been the control of fertility, so females are probably vey much more “made” than was so even in Ms. Meads time where she presumed a biological role as mother channelled females. So just as there are a wide range of “feminities” on offer to females there should be for males. The huge discourse on being a women illustrates a vast choice to be made from traditional “homemaker” to “ball busting executive” indeed much of the public debate about men is often really about the tussles between groups of women over the freedoms available where reproduction and rearing have become a much smaller (in time and effort if not emotionally) pull.
    In some respects a debate about making a man isn’t at all new ,from warrior to priest, there has always been debate and programmes and conflicting ideas about what a “man” could and should be. What is developing, I hope, is a broadening of who is engaged; from elites in the past to a more democratic inclusive debate. I am always struck by how rarely males are asked about these issues. I think there would also be some honesty as a result. It has after all often been very useful that men don’t “whinge” or question. I am often struck with the variety of views held by men when someone does actually take the time to just ask rather than assume.
    I was struck by Inside Man’s WW1 pieces last year. Coming from the NW west my grandfather was drafted. He was in the widespread tradition of non conformist/”low church” Christianity that was very pacifist. Like many he was reluctant to war precisely because of these pacifistic teachings which regarded war as a failure and a horror. This was a widespread view in the working class of the area and time (I don’t know about other regions) and not at all the “gung ho” warrior mindset. It really is a mistake to think there ever was one version of masculinity.

    • insideMAN

      Thanks for the thoughtful comment as ever Groan!

  • http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/ TicklishQuill

    I’m sorry, but I can’t recommend this book whilst it promotes Micro-aggressive Stereotypes of men and Ignores all of us in Crochet Clubs.

    Some throw spears, others throw waffle stitches in clashing colors. P^))

    • Groan

      Thinking still of my grandfather. Having been drafted in WW1 and being made a machine gunner despite having deep religious doubts about killing. He did learn to embroider in the trenches. Not at all un typical of drafted men fro the lancashire towns and cities. In WW2 he put these skills, embroidery not machine gunning, to making table cloths runners etc. out of bleached sacking and coloured threads. Again I have since leaned not at al atypical as needle work had been common in the boredom of the trenches. But tellingly he told my Grandmother and mother to say one of them had done the work if people should comment.

  • NickyB

    “there was a real issue with masculinity we need to take to seriously as a society”

    I’m sure the book is insightful – but isn’t this logic the very problem? Masculinity is innate in half the population – a society which is so shaped that it problematises what makes us different from the other 50% has the problem.

    In many ways this (masculinity) is such a middle-class (female) angst issue. The subtitle “How to be man” strikes me as reminiscent of a Victorian list of instructions for young women on ‘how to please your gentleman’. “Come on boys keep it clean!”

    This is about middle class male neuroticism – males who have an invisible cultural (feminist) vaccum surrounding them which has kept them in a state of compliant boyhood whist the confused and less educated working classes carry the burden of ‘toxic’ masculinity as they desperately find routes to be men.

    There seems to be a void of actualized masculinity – and therefore actualized men – becuase the heritage of maleness has been jettisoned for the sake of keeping the female (middle class educated) ego in a state of omnipotence whilst she navigates her superiority in the workplace – because everything male dominated and suppressed.

    Perhaps we (as men) need to accept AND OWN that men are great and terrible: Dirty, vulgar, violent; enriching, liberating, creating. Biologically we have 8-10x the testosterone of women which makes us a force of chaos and change. This cultural taming is a charade to suit the time (‘they’ need women in offices – not men in coal mines). The more men (the full range – not the Oxbridge elites) are isolated from the center of society the more society will stagnate and pool around the current capitalist consumerism which is making us all – men and women – so miserable.

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